rossdavidh 18 hours ago

Ah, memories. I was a manufacturing engineer in a bipolar factory from 1989 to 1992, and BiCMOS was the perennial hope for a future for our acquired skills. When word broke that the Pentium would have one, it seemed significant. On the whole, though, it didn't have the impact that was hoped for; bipolar hangs on (like COBOL) in certain niches, but I think despite the theoretical advantages, the disadvantages of having to think about both bipolar and CMOS transistors in the engineering, was too much of a price to pay.

Lesser known reasons: as bipolar transistors went to polysilicon gates (which have a tiny, ~1-2 Angstrom thick layer of oxide in them) and MOS transistors started to become leakier through their ever-shrinking gate oxides, the distinction between MOS and bipolar transistors became fuzzier. Modern MOS transistors leak less current through their gate oxides than the bipolar transistors did through the polysilicon emitter, but the physics of the two is not as different as it was twenty years ago.

kens 20 hours ago

Is BiCMOS radical woke? :-) Author here for your Premium questions...

  • chasil 16 hours ago

    What areas still use bipolar? Does a switching power supply use substantial bipolar? Does anybody still implement TTL or ECL?

    Quoting you below...

    "The most unusual circuit is the BiCMOS driver. By adding a few extra processing steps to the regular CMOS manufacturing process, bipolar (NPN and PNP) transistors can be created. The Pentium extensively used BiCMOS circuits since they reduced signal delays by up to 35%. Intel also used BiCMOS for the Pentium Pro, Pentium II, Pentium III, and Xeon processors. However, as chip voltages dropped, the benefit from bipolar transistors dropped too and BiCMOS was eventually abandoned."

    I didn't realize that BiCMOS lasted so long. I thought it was only used on the original Pentium, but I really didn't look hard.

    Edit: BiCMOS has a wiki.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BiCMOS

    • RicoElectrico 16 hours ago

      I think the best keyword to seek is BCD (Bipolar, CMOS, DMOS) which is a process pioneered by ST. It is quite alive indeed.

      Bipolar has for example lower noise than CMOS when it comes to opamps.

      • qwezxcrty 15 hours ago

        Lower noise for lower source impedances, to be slightly more precise.

  • hulitu 16 hours ago

    BiCMOS was supposed to be faster than CMOS. Whas this the case with this processor ?

    • kens 15 hours ago

      Intel said that BiCMOS decreased signal delays by up to 35%, although the total performance improvement would be less.

  • smegsicle 18 hours ago

    whats that supposed to be some kind of sick joke?

    • kens 18 hours ago

      No. I'm making fun of the comments on my previous article that called me "radical woke."

      • java-man 18 hours ago

        Oh please, we are all a bit sensitive right now.

        We always enjoy reading your articles, Ken!